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A Conversation with Wendy Mesley

"They took away my show, my reputation, my everything basically -- then they offered me a job to come back and read copy."

The journalist and broadcaster Wendy Mesley agreed to do an interview with me — her first since officially parting ways with the CBC last year following an internal office scandal involving her use of the “n-word.” The incident occurred in a Zoom meeting in the wake of the George Floyd protests during which Mesley was decrying the racist abuse endured by a junior reporter. Mesley understood in the meeting she’d caused offence and immediately apologised; she was later suspended pending an investigation and left the network in disgrace. She hasn’t appeared on air since then —until now.

Cancellation aside, Mesley is a legend — a bonafide national household name in a country that doesn’t have many. I grew up watching her ground-breaking show Undercurrents, which covered the rise of big data in the mid-90s, when “tech coverage” was barely a concept in the mainstream media. She began as a political reporter in Quebec went on to host a handful hard-hitting news shows, from investigative documentaries to anchoring of The National, the CBC’s flagship evening news program, which she occasionally co-hosted with her ex-husband Peter Mansbridge (apparently they’re still good friends). Most recently she was host of The Weekly with Wendy Mesley, a Sunday morning politics magazine show.

Mesley couldn’t really say no when I asked since she’d just interviewed me for her new podcast, Women of Ill Repute (which she co-hosts with the comedian Maureen Holloway). It launched this week and you can listen to it here.

In a relaxed, wide-ranging chat we talked about our respective encounters with Canada’s formidable deputy prime minister (and former journalist) Chrystia Freeland, the gig-economy, ring lights, pensions, news-withdrawal, the recent death of her mother, the interviews she regrets missing out on (Dolly Parton in Dollywood) and the ones she doesn’t (Pierre Elliot Trudeau in a hot tub), bullshit gag orders, moral panic, podcasting, culture warriors and, of course, how everything really went down at the CBC.

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