First we need a more realistic, widely accepted, catalog of female bad behavior, both intrasexual and mixed. There will be resistance to the idea. There is this myth that women aren’t competitive and aggressive. People will claim that we’re trying to revive old stereotypes.
Have you tried just withholding kisses and more until after quite a few dates? A female friend calls what she does the 'ten paid dates' strategy.
Women can still show interest and affection in other ways: e.g. a WhatsApp saying "I really enjoyed talking to you. Really looking forward to our next date" that will keep a man who wants something meaningful interested and reassured he isn't in the 'friend zone'.
But it might also put off a lot of the men you want to put off, who only want casual sex with half of Westminster?
If marriage is what both are looking for then it might work. By the way Leah, withholding kisses and sex (well at least the sex part) while continuing to have dinners and chats used to be called "dating".
"Why can’t men behave? I am not even talking about sexual harassment and groping, just garden variety romantic misbehaviour."
Men seek power in large part because women love powerful men. What's the point in working so hard and sacrificing to achieve power if the man is not going to use it for the benefits it brings? At the end of the day, these people and the wealthy, are just people, prone to all the foibles that any other person has. They are not special. They have a certain talent and worked hard to get to where they are.
It’s not like she was able to change anything, she still had to follow centuries of precedent set by men. If she was a man it would it have been any different? Sadly Politicians in general are always having to clean up after their predecessors, of which the majority are men.
Old white men (OWM) are the bain of our existence. They are greedy, they lie, they cheat and they steal. They have been allowed to do as they please for centuries thinking that they are better than women, and that women cannot do what they do. Any man past the age of 60 needs to retire and be replaced. I dream of a society that is run by women that are honest, true and look out for the interests of their fellow humans. After all, that is what we are, human beings, one no better than another. We all want the same thing, to live free, be kind and appreciate what we already have.
Greed should have NO place in our world! Greed causes war, famine, pestilence and all other maladies. Why have women NOT taken charge? What are we afraid of? There are more of us than there is of them. We let them take our freedom and our rights. No matter how high in political office we are, we still have to kowtow to a man! Look how long it took us to get the right to vote? We fought hard for it and we won. Men have made a mess of our societies for centuries and they are still continuing the trend, nothing changes, at least not for the better.
Everyone blames Hiliaru. Where did she learn her behaviors from? Have you met her husband? What’s good for the goose is not good for the gander? We are only able to follow the rules set by men, there are no choices given. If we were able to remove our sexual identity, who then would we blame?
I don’t deny that she did make the wrong decision, she should have known better.it would seem that One bad apple does spoil the whole bunch. We learn what we live.
"Any man past the age of 60 needs to retire and be replaced."
Here in USA we have a president who is one step away from (literally) falling into his grave and another presidential "hopeful" candidate who is the same (and threatening civil war if his old ass doesn't get elected). We Americans can't wait for a smart, healthy, energetic 35 years young woman to finally take the reigns and set this country right.
It's unfortunate you denounce greed as you are greedily asking for most (all?) power to go to women. I assume you're a woman because of your name.
Those people you talk about, the greedy, liars, cheaters and stealers... those are not inherently men conditions, you know? They are conditions much more prevalent in people with power, because they use those methods to get power. A self-selecting mechanism. It just so happens that most people in power currently are men. And as much as that needs to be balanced with many more women, you do understand it's not only men benefiting from those OWM in power, right? They have wives, sisters, daughters. I'd argue they benefit way more than I have.
Also, some of the loveliest humans I've met are over 60, white, and also men. These generalizations don't help anyone. Denounce the perpetrators, no the entire gender.
Women in power are just as bad if not worse than any man is. Show me the utopia society that is run by women that is so perfect. There aren't any. And it is not because men prevent women from ruling. No, for the most part it is because women generally don't want the responsibility. If you wanted to perfect your corner of the world, you could run for local office and change things for your city or town. Local elections are often more impactful than national ones. If the men are so bad at it, why don't you show them the right way to do it.
You know very well why the rich, famous, or powerful men are so often promiscuous. Because there are so very many women who will allow those men to kiss them and do anything.
Anything?
Anything, grab them by the pussy, anything. …
Only when being a male slut jerk fails, will most of those successful alpha slut jerks stop.
Many end, or at least hugely reduce, their numbers game after marriage, tho then so many sexy men have multiple sequential wives, like Harrison Ford, Clint Eastwood, Brad Pitt, Trump.
None are good models of faithful relationships.
Men like young women (22! Under 30…), just as women like taller men. But tall men stay tall, while sexy young things don’t stay young.
And silly feminism wants men to ‘get in touch with their feelings’.
When many attractive guys, upon seeing a young lovely, FEEL that having hot sex with her would make them feel great, right now.
--- Hilary. If the conspiracy theory about her and Huma Abedin is to be believed.
"I’m talking about Harold Wilson, the bygone Labour leader and two-time Prime Minister and, as of last week, Westminster’s latest extra-marital shagger."
--- Polyamory should just be normalized globally and every marriage assumed to be an open one for all involved. That might be the only way to phase out scandals.
"...when Jeremy Corbyn became leader of the Labour Party, and my older, British fellow party members were pre-emptively mourning our election losses, I looked at them wide-eyed and confused. Why the cynicism? Who hurt you and stopped you believing in magic?"
It should by now be obvious that many in Labour preferred to lose to Johnson (and take the opportunity to purge Corbyn and his ilk) than win with Corbyn.
Women in high office are no less perfidious than men. It just takes different forms. Women are not angels any more than men are.
I definitely agree with this. But perhaps if we were somewhere closer to parity the sexes could keep each other in check?
First we need a more realistic, widely accepted, catalog of female bad behavior, both intrasexual and mixed. There will be resistance to the idea. There is this myth that women aren’t competitive and aggressive. People will claim that we’re trying to revive old stereotypes.
"We have the personal boundaries of a cell undergoing osmosis and date men with as much a sense of duty as an amoeba."
Now there's a sentence you don't hear every day, even as a college biology teacher. Bravo.
Have you tried just withholding kisses and more until after quite a few dates? A female friend calls what she does the 'ten paid dates' strategy.
Women can still show interest and affection in other ways: e.g. a WhatsApp saying "I really enjoyed talking to you. Really looking forward to our next date" that will keep a man who wants something meaningful interested and reassured he isn't in the 'friend zone'.
But it might also put off a lot of the men you want to put off, who only want casual sex with half of Westminster?
Withholding kisses and sex while continuing to have dinners and chats? Sounds like marriage!
"Sounds like marriage".
If marriage is what both are looking for then it might work. By the way Leah, withholding kisses and sex (well at least the sex part) while continuing to have dinners and chats used to be called "dating".
"Why can’t men behave? I am not even talking about sexual harassment and groping, just garden variety romantic misbehaviour."
Men seek power in large part because women love powerful men. What's the point in working so hard and sacrificing to achieve power if the man is not going to use it for the benefits it brings? At the end of the day, these people and the wealthy, are just people, prone to all the foibles that any other person has. They are not special. They have a certain talent and worked hard to get to where they are.
Good use of the verb 'honeytrap'.
Margaret Thatcher screwed an entire generation of coal miners and left their wives and families heartbroken and very much poorer.
It’s not like she was able to change anything, she still had to follow centuries of precedent set by men. If she was a man it would it have been any different? Sadly Politicians in general are always having to clean up after their predecessors, of which the majority are men.
I don’t know what was done to soften the blow, but the mines lost money.
Old white men (OWM) are the bain of our existence. They are greedy, they lie, they cheat and they steal. They have been allowed to do as they please for centuries thinking that they are better than women, and that women cannot do what they do. Any man past the age of 60 needs to retire and be replaced. I dream of a society that is run by women that are honest, true and look out for the interests of their fellow humans. After all, that is what we are, human beings, one no better than another. We all want the same thing, to live free, be kind and appreciate what we already have.
Greed should have NO place in our world! Greed causes war, famine, pestilence and all other maladies. Why have women NOT taken charge? What are we afraid of? There are more of us than there is of them. We let them take our freedom and our rights. No matter how high in political office we are, we still have to kowtow to a man! Look how long it took us to get the right to vote? We fought hard for it and we won. Men have made a mess of our societies for centuries and they are still continuing the trend, nothing changes, at least not for the better.
Because women have never ever misused power, like Hillary Rodham "We came, we saw, he died!"
Power is to sociopaths what catnip is to cats/
Everyone blames Hiliaru. Where did she learn her behaviors from? Have you met her husband? What’s good for the goose is not good for the gander? We are only able to follow the rules set by men, there are no choices given. If we were able to remove our sexual identity, who then would we blame?
So when she does bad it's not really her fault. Why do you deny her agency?
I don’t deny that she did make the wrong decision, she should have known better.it would seem that One bad apple does spoil the whole bunch. We learn what we live.
So good that it's only HRC. Margaret Thatcher never existed, for example.
I think they chose each other.
"Any man past the age of 60 needs to retire and be replaced."
Here in USA we have a president who is one step away from (literally) falling into his grave and another presidential "hopeful" candidate who is the same (and threatening civil war if his old ass doesn't get elected). We Americans can't wait for a smart, healthy, energetic 35 years young woman to finally take the reigns and set this country right.
It's unfortunate you denounce greed as you are greedily asking for most (all?) power to go to women. I assume you're a woman because of your name.
Those people you talk about, the greedy, liars, cheaters and stealers... those are not inherently men conditions, you know? They are conditions much more prevalent in people with power, because they use those methods to get power. A self-selecting mechanism. It just so happens that most people in power currently are men. And as much as that needs to be balanced with many more women, you do understand it's not only men benefiting from those OWM in power, right? They have wives, sisters, daughters. I'd argue they benefit way more than I have.
Also, some of the loveliest humans I've met are over 60, white, and also men. These generalizations don't help anyone. Denounce the perpetrators, no the entire gender.
Women in power are just as bad if not worse than any man is. Show me the utopia society that is run by women that is so perfect. There aren't any. And it is not because men prevent women from ruling. No, for the most part it is because women generally don't want the responsibility. If you wanted to perfect your corner of the world, you could run for local office and change things for your city or town. Local elections are often more impactful than national ones. If the men are so bad at it, why don't you show them the right way to do it.
What ends at 30? The misery is just starting
I was also baffled by the response to this piece — it made me feel very protective of the author whom I adore!
some kind of incel pincer movement?
And these comments are unusually dark for the usually reasonable Substack audience
Yes! What is going on?!
You know very well why the rich, famous, or powerful men are so often promiscuous. Because there are so very many women who will allow those men to kiss them and do anything.
Anything?
Anything, grab them by the pussy, anything. …
Only when being a male slut jerk fails, will most of those successful alpha slut jerks stop.
Many end, or at least hugely reduce, their numbers game after marriage, tho then so many sexy men have multiple sequential wives, like Harrison Ford, Clint Eastwood, Brad Pitt, Trump.
None are good models of faithful relationships.
Men like young women (22! Under 30…), just as women like taller men. But tall men stay tall, while sexy young things don’t stay young.
And silly feminism wants men to ‘get in touch with their feelings’.
When many attractive guys, upon seeing a young lovely, FEEL that having hot sex with her would make them feel great, right now.
[oh no, not Those Feelings!]
"Where is the female Bill Clinton?"
--- Hilary. If the conspiracy theory about her and Huma Abedin is to be believed.
"I’m talking about Harold Wilson, the bygone Labour leader and two-time Prime Minister and, as of last week, Westminster’s latest extra-marital shagger."
--- Polyamory should just be normalized globally and every marriage assumed to be an open one for all involved. That might be the only way to phase out scandals.
Well get on it then, Incel Theory!
It's getting on fine without me. Poly is on the rise exponentially.
"...when Jeremy Corbyn became leader of the Labour Party, and my older, British fellow party members were pre-emptively mourning our election losses, I looked at them wide-eyed and confused. Why the cynicism? Who hurt you and stopped you believing in magic?"
It should by now be obvious that many in Labour preferred to lose to Johnson (and take the opportunity to purge Corbyn and his ilk) than win with Corbyn.
I might have advised a change to the last line. It arouses my relentless lechery.