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MR ROBERT THOMPSON's avatar

My dad was the master of small talk, or so I thought until I understood that he was really a great listener. My mother was frightfully dismissive; any conversation had to be bare bones. I'm a curious sort, so I often offend unintentionally with my questions. My favourite opener when meeting someone new is, "How do you express your artistic side."

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Leah McLaren's avatar

That is a brilliant question, in part because it's actually a stealth compliment posing as a question (and who doesn't secretly believe they have an artistic side). As for your parents it makes a funny kind of sense that a good listener and a dismissive conversationalist would have a nosey son. I say that as an extremely nosey person myself.

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Mary's avatar

It’s the thing that I miss most about living in NYC- the great, sometimes weird but most times intimate and deep conversations that I found myself always having with strangers- can drivers were among my favorite! My husband would be endlessly entertained and and shocked by the tidbits of information that I would repeat at the end of the day. It’s the thing that I hated most about living in California- uninteresting small talk the usually end with the phrase I hate the most -“ no worries “! No worries? Are you dead???

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Leah McLaren's avatar

Agreed. New Yorkers raise small talk to a high art. It is NEVER boring!

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Gina Burton's avatar

I chat up strangers all the time. So interesting. And you’re right about cabbies!

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Gina Burton's avatar

I have a gift for it, well honed at business dinners with my hubby, seated between two (often) strangers. I’m genuinely curious so I ask a lot of questions which encourages people to talk. And talk And talk. Problem solved😉

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Leah McLaren's avatar

I envy your gift and might need private lessons in future.

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Mary's avatar

Me too! My kids think I must have been a psychoanalyst in my last life! But people are endlessly fascinating- especially the small stuff! Who said that life is about 99% of the small stuff? I can’t remember the exact quote but it’s so true!

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Simon Deacon's avatar

Really enjoyed the post - thank you. I liked the thought about changing to ‘have you traveled a long way today?’ Will use that next time :-)

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Leah McLaren's avatar

Thank Her Maj!

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MR ROBERT THOMPSON's avatar

Based on your writing, I instinctively surmised you and I had something in common Ms.McL.

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Jean-Pierre Spénard's avatar

A favourite of mine is making a political statement under the guise of small talk.

How many of the bears slaughtered for those hats in this morning’s procession were Canadian?

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Leah McLaren's avatar

Brilliant idea -- rather subversive. And not just political but a joke!

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Stephanie Marshall's avatar

So I recently asked someone I had just met “how are you?” And his reply was this: “You’re Canadian right? (Right) So I will answer you fully - because you actually want to know. My bowels have been awful today. I called my doctor and he said take over the counter meds before booking an appointment”. We had our business meeting. The next day I felt it important to check on his health issue. All fine! Somehow the real reply has now formed a bond of sorts. And all because this Englishman thinks Canadians means it when they ask “how are you?”. I always mean it, but don’t know if it’s a National trait.

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Leah McLaren's avatar

Hahahaha! I always find it sort of startling when I go back to Canada and say how are you to people and they start telling me their boring life.... babe, you're a nicer person than me. (But we knew that.)

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Jean-Pierre Spénard's avatar

I am usually asking total strangers how they are doing, especially folks working in stores or restaurants. The small talk makes us human after being prisoners for the last two years.

A recent column from David Brooks in the NYT explores this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/25/opinion/social-life-talk-strangers.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

I have taken to asking mysterious FB friend seekers «Who are you?» after allowing them in. Answers are seldom satisfactory!

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Leah McLaren's avatar

That Brooks column is great. And yes, I agree that random conversations with strangers really does life the mood. Also, I notice I'm much more prone to strike one one up when I'm feeling happy which is interesting. So perhaps when we are happy we owe it to everyone else to go around making small talk?

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Arshiya Bhadu's avatar

The happy part is so true, even in other things. I realize I am a much better friend when I am happy in contrast to when I am sad. Though I have met people who are better friends during tough times because that's when they need emotional support. I thought this was interesting as it further proved how extremely self-reliant I am... *cue nervous laughter*

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Leah McLaren's avatar

I suspect the fact that you are even worried about how/when/why you are or aren't a better friend makes you... a better friend.

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Jean-Pierre Spénard's avatar

I think I agree with you, Leah.

I was burned by good friends over the course of the summer and I am still so upset I have not spoken to any of them since June and they have not called me either.

However, before leaving for happier climes, I spoke some truth to their power over why they upset me. Oh yes, I did tell them I loved them.

So, I guess I really do agree with you, Leah!

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Arshiya Bhadu's avatar

that's so sweet of you to say *crying* <3

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Jean-Pierre Spénard's avatar

Hmmm… I’m thinking about how by providing emotional support, even to total strangers (yes, through small talk, smiles, nods…) we drain part of our reserves as we tank up while moving along.

Is this what Karma could be all about?

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Arshiya Bhadu's avatar

That's such a great take on Karma!

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Jean-Pierre Spénard's avatar

Small talking has been difficult for the obvious reasons, yet even a masked smile shows up in our eyes, a quick wave or a nod.

I have not recently met the eyes provoking a much needed « coup de foudre » though!

Keep on smiling then and nodding and especially glancing because one never knows what the tide will bring in.

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Arshiya Bhadu's avatar

Hate small talk. I would also like to, "be mildly offended than bored." This strategy makes for some really funny friends too!

My trick is not so much a trick, but I like to reveal something unconventional about myself (that I have already processed & don't mind talking about it anymore). From what I have noticed, this usually makes others comfortable sharing stories about themselves hehe

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Leah McLaren's avatar

We would get a long at a party I think.

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Arshiya Bhadu's avatar

Yes hahah, imagine all the fun conversations/memories! You should visit Penn State if you visit America anytime soon :)

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Jean-Pierre Spénard's avatar

I’ll be on the lookout for either of you the next time I go to a party. I may be the one wearing the bearskin shorts.

Oh, in answer to my own question on the provenance of the bear skins adorning the UK soldiers as well as our own, they are from Canada (source Wikipedia).

I won’t tell you where the Swedes get theirs but it’s ironically a non-renewable. Black bears do renew themselves.

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Mary's avatar

Yep- it gives people the ‘permission’ to be open!

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Jonathan Posner's avatar

I think the key to small talk is asking an open question of any sort - even if it's 'how are you today'? It shows you're interested. Then LISTEN to the answer - and find something to pick up on. That way you're showing a). you're interested in what they have to say and b). it's about them not you. I used to perform a Monty Python sketch with a friend called 'Hendon' which (very amusingly) shows how not to do small talk. The Python version is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOjuSHgcLKQ

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Leah McLaren's avatar

I'd forgotten about that sketch -- brilliant. And yes, of course you are absolutely right about listening -- present active listening is so rare in small talk situations and it's remarkable how much it enlivens and elevates the conversation, making it a connection rather than an empty exchange!

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Shirley Lindstrom's avatar

I find most small talk boring and sometimes avoid people I like very much because I can’t endure the inevitable conversation. I do enjoy small talk about controversial issues with people I know have total opposite political viewpoints than me. This can be dangerous but I ease into it with something like, “I know we see this from opposite sides of the political aisle but I am very interested in your thought process on this”. Those are the most fascinating conversations. Also, more than half the time we end up agreeing more than we disagree.

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Leah McLaren's avatar

Hahaha, I love this, especially "you never have to be real." Funny because it's true, sometimes real talk can be very exhausting. As for golf, I once had a boyfriend who was from a golf family and hoooo boy, golf chat really does kill the hours, doesn't it? I wonder what golfers actually talk for the seven hours they're golfing? (don't say golf!!!)

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Mary's avatar

That’s interesting because in my experience it’s usually the most real people are?!

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